In Teil 1 dieses Dreiteilers habe ich geschildert, wie ich bei mobile.de den Coupé- Zwilling „meines“ Porsche 911 S 2.4 Targa fand. In Teil 2 berichte ich, ob ich ihn gekauft habe…
Nachdem der „griechische Professor“ die (Ab-)Gründe für den Verkauf des Porsche Klassikers geschildert hatte, erklärte mich bereit, meinen Traumwagen von Athen aus verschiffen zu lassen.
Von: XXXXX
An: Gregorius IESOS
Datum: 20.10.2011 11:47
Betreff: Re: Porsche 911 S 2.4 EUR 17.300Hello,
shipping from Athens would work for me and thanks for the 5-day inspection period. Sounds good. As long as there is some secure money transaction provided.
Could you help with the shipping and how would money get to you?
Yours sincerely
Die Antwort des Porschefans aus der griechischen Hauptstadt kam postwendend:
From: Gregorius IESOS
To: XXXXX
Sent: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:38:53 +0200
Subject: Porsche 911 S 2.4 EUR 17.300Hello,
I will explain you step by step how this will work :
A. First you have to send me your shipping information (your name & address/phone number).
1. After I receive your info, I will go to shipping company Location and leave the car onto your name and with your shipping address as the intended receiver.
2. The transport company service will check the car also the legal papers to see that everything is OK with it.
B. You will receive a notification from shipping company service as a confirmation that the car is in their custody and also, that the car has been tested and ready for shipping.
1. They will request you a security payment, you will have to deposit 10% of the total price of the car to shipping company account to proof that you have the money ready for the car. This not means that you are obligate to will buy the car for 100 % when you will receive it. Your deposit will stay in their account in safe and nobody can`t take it until you will receive the car and decide if you want to buy it or not.
2. The transport company service will verify the Transfer, and if everything is in order, they will deliver the car to your door step.
3. After you will receive the car and you will be completely satisfied with it, you will instruct the shipping company service with your decision.
C. If by any reason, you will not be satisfied with the product, you will return the car to the company with no expense or extra costs from your side.
I will support all the taxes and feeds because is my responsibility. You will have a 5 days to inspect the car and if you are not satisfied in it you can reject it without any problems and the company will return your deposit back without any questions. The delivery will take 3-4 days.
If you agree with my idea please provide me your full name and address for shipping, so I can initiate the transaction through the transport company service.
They will contact you by phone with all the details regarding our transaction ( tracking number, delivery time, payment method, contract of sale, etc.).Please read carefully all the terms and conditions and if you understand and accept please let me know your details so we can start the shipping.
thank you!
Ahso. Jetzt bin ich mal gespannt, wie es weitergeht – und wie wird das Schätzchen denn wohl verschifft? Nächstes Mail ab nach Griechenland.
From: XXXXXXX
Subject: Re: Porsche 911 S 2.4 EUR 17.300
To: XXXX
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:14:32 +0200Hello,
do you already know which shipping company you will use? Do they have a website – this would be vital for me because of the 10% deposit etc.
Thanks!
Die Antwort kam postwendend. Und zwar nicht nur mit einem – wieder sehr ausführlichen – Mail. Diesmal gab es „for your safety“ auch noch den 100% originalen Scan des 100% echten griechischen Personalausweises. Der renommierte Bio-Mediziner hat ganz offensichtlich keine Verträge mit dem Datenschutz. Hauptsache weg mit der alten Möhre.
Von: Gregorius IESOS
An: XXX
Datum: 22.10.2011 11:21
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Betreff: Porsche 911 S 2.4 EUR 17.300Hello ,
It is a transport company from Greece but this is not a problem because they speak german & english. A friend of mine recommended me. I want to tell you that yesterday I visited their office-center and I was very surprised because there I found a serious team with amiable employees. They are 100% profesionals and will be responsible if anything happens with our transaction. They will protect both sides (seller & buyer). It is a prestigious company with over 20 years experience. The company is called aral carl trans cargo The agents from the company will bring the car to your address with all the papers and they will help you to register the car on your name. I want to tell you that I`m a honest person, a man of word and all I want is to sell my car. I don`t want to risk to lose my job from here, and the most important my FREEDOM from any amount in the world. I attached also a copy with my passport ID for your safety.My responsibility is to pay the shipping taxes, and you must pay a security deposit payment ( 10% of the total price of the car ) so you can receive the car. Your money will stay in their account and nobody can`t take the money until you will receive the car. If you will deposit this money that no means that you will buy the car for 100 %. You must deposit this money so you can be able to receive the car. You must understand that I can`t ship the car to all the people who want to buy the car. The company need a warranty that you are a potential serious buyer and you are ready to inspect the car. After you will receive the car you will have 5 days to inspect it and decide if you want to buy it or not. If you don`t want to buy the car after you will see it no problem the company will return your money back in the same day, or if you want to buy it you must send the rest of the money to the company and they will pay me.
In order to start the transaction I need your full name and shipping address/phone number.
Thank you and wait your reply soon !
Prof. Gregorius IESOSBiomedical EngineeringE-mail:
Na dann ist ja alles in Olivenöl oder? Nur noch Adresse angeben, Geld überweisen und keine drei Wochen später fahre ich 911 S 2.4 Coupé. Oder etwa nicht? Mein Gefühl riet mir, an dieser Stelle die Kommunikation abzubrechen und mich mal bei einem bekannten KFZ-Portal danach zu erkundigen, wie solche Geschäfte in der Regel weiterlaufen. Soviel vorab. Nicht jeder ist so schlau das zu tun. Und Geschichten wie die des griechischen Porsche 911 führen täglich dazu, dass gutgläubige „Käufer“ erhebliche finanzielle Verluste erleiden. Dazu mehr in Teil 3 von „Betrug beim Porsche Kauf: Porsche 911 S 2.4 Coupé für 17.000 Euro“.
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Uns (mir und meinem Freund) ist genau das gleiche passiert vor ein paar tagen. was können wir tun wenn wir das geld schon überwiesen haben??? haben sie das Geld zurückbekommen?? wir haben vor zu Polzei zu gehen und Anzeige zu machen.
Ich war misstrauisch genug, nichts zu überweisen. Gehen Sie zur Polizei, aber gehen Sie davon aus dass die Hintermänner in Osteuropa sitzen und das Geld längst auf sicheren Konten liegt, an die man nicht mehr dran kommt. Wenn es über mobile.de / autoscout lief auch in jedem Fall das jeweilige Portal informieren damit die entsprechende Accounts löschen oder nachverfolgen können. Vielleicht klappt es ja über die Polizei. Ich drücke die Daumen! Hansbahnhof (Teil der Maschine)